This is what we now have for Peace and Reconcilliation for the Stonehenge situation !!
Stonehenge Peace and Reconciliation Process http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/padras.htm
Now, just how is it exectly, that I am being reconcilled ??
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From: George Firsoff george@greenleaf.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: [stonehengepeace] Re: Stonehenge Solstice Festival Revival.
Yahoo! Groups : stonehengepeace Messages : Message 2217 of 2226
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What I was trying to get across was not that I am against the Free Festival so much as that I consider it such a waste of time and energy thinking about and discussing it beceause it does not have a bat in hell’s chance of coming off!
Like those SILLY people who ended up in the Beanfield thought they couldtake on what they called “The State” and they could win!
That was not true. Now since then there are even more laws and rules that will be enforced to stop you doing what you want.
Every year the police have prevented sound systems coming to Stonehenge and setting up in different parts of Wiltshire. You might have scored one night of activity in 2001? before being shut down.
I think there is a dividing point, which is, are you more interested in making things unpleasant for the authorities, or are you more interested in enjoying your music, legally?
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Oh and this: for peace, more and more angry at me and mine:
From: stonehengepeace@yahoogroups.com
To: stonehengepeace@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [stonehengepeace] anarchists
I find it hard to believe, that the anarchists really believe there can be a free festival, or an event, at Stonehenge. After all they must know the history and they just can’t be that dumb.
This leads me to the conclusion that they are being devious. They just want to make people believe there can be a festival, to passionately desire it, so thousands can come to Stonehenge to act as cannon fodder for the confrontation they are planning with the authorities, you know “the revolution goes on” somebody said – yeah? Some silly 19th century ideological delusion, which is sad if you really look deeply into it! It will not happen!
But what they would achieve is good enough for them, because they might force the authorities to clamp down, to cause another atrocity, so they can say “we told you so, the state always operates like that” they’d have gained converts for their brainwashing, which is at the end of the day what they want.
Because to be really cruel, and I don’t care about that, because I’ve had enough stick from these peddlers of unreality, they are in truth but a small group of extremists who naturally feel lonely, they need more people who think the same as them, and can feed their illusions back at them to make them feel powerful.
If there is a Peace Process it’s job is to defuse this one!
Don’t let the agitators get to you!
The agitators want to provoke a confrontation!
For their own pathetic ends!
If they succeed Stonehenge will be closed up again, for years.
So, there you have it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is my account of what actually happened during this period.
http://tash.gn.apc.org/sh_bean.htm
and, my ‘cell notes’, written while locked up after ther attack
http://tash.gn.apc.org/sh_bean-notes1.htm
Also, Operation Solstice
http://tash.gn.apc.org/op_solstice.htm
I minority group containing many families, attacked, while trying to stand up for their civil rights “SILLY”. Blast his eyes and a curse on his ……. AHHHH!
I didn’t know, of this Yahoo group: Yahoo! Groups : stonehengepeace
But I did know of the Stonehenge peace and reconciliation commission, George Firsoff, and Tim Ingle-Abbot etc.
I am not with them. I disagree quite fundamentally what is going on there.
I am for peace, as well as the next man. The Beanfield was horrible, and I don’t wish a re-run on anyone. BUT, what the outcome of their meetings appears to be, is a complete acquiescence to the police and authorities ideas, on how to run a managed event. It seem so long as they get to be all pagan, and wave an oak leaf at each other, in the stones in the middle of the night, it is considered progress.
Well this anarchist is not religious, Christian, Moslem or Pagan. Never was. But I do claim a right to gather, with me and mine, that goes back to the stone age, right there as we have always done.. Really, why should I put that on hold, because of a temporary bit of law, which, when viewed from that length of history, doesn’t seen to stand up. For such attitudes, you may know that I’m still an ‘injuncted person’ and can be arrested for being in an area, ‘delineated on a map therein between dates around the solstice.’ This order by Lord Justice Morland, has never been rescinded.
My interest is, and always was the gathering of the tribes, to follow this tradition. If you look at some of the photos I put there especially the aerial shots, you’ll see 20,000, on one side of the road at a festival on the solstice, many listening to Hawkwind etc, with a couple of hundred of us, going over the road for a celebration of a few hours, to return back to the festival, before it got dark.
Recent years, after all the nonsense, the focus has shifted to the stones.
This is a shame, THEY should have left it all alone! The whole issue, would not now be under such great pressure.
The legal justification, for putting us down, was damage. It informed the injunctions. But, I’ve always thought that there is a difference between ‘damage’ and ‘wear and tear’, like what you get during its ‘use’. Left to the authorities, it would be put in a glass case and air-conditioned as a museum piece, rather than ‘living history’. Do you see, we come from different planets 🙂
Because of the way, this has all panned-out. I did not go to the event this year, have been every year since 1972! But am so disappointed by the way stuff is turning out. The temporary gathering in the middle of the night under rules, is not what this old foggy thought we were doing. I find it hard to account for what is going on, and why folks have put up with it!
You might also be interested to know, that I’ve not been to a Glastonbury for years either, last 1992. I think that there is a difference between a ‘festival’ and an ‘outside concert’. Just not what I thought we were doing, when I set out on all this.
Others however, understand the significance of this action. Am helping making a Radio4 documentary for transmission on the 27th November, describing some of this, called : In Living Memory”
http://tash_lodge.blogspot.com/2002_07_21_tash_lodge_archive.html#79296253
Jolyon Jenkins
BBC Bristol
Fri 19/07/02 14:19
Hello
I’m making part of a series for Radio 4 called “In Living Memory” in which we revisit events of the not-too-distant past which have been half forgotten, and ask what the aftermath was. I’ve been wondering about doing something on the travellers’ convoys of 1985-7 and maybe the Battle of the Beanfield in particular. I came across your excellent website.
Could I have a chat with you about it?
Jolyon Jenkins: Producer, network features
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